Do we follow Jesus or our Our ancestors???? 1

 
We Eat Jesus 

Tino; I wish I was also an evangelist.  But not by spreading the words of the pastor but the Word of God. Mr. Kalappurayil's write up is good but the only problem is it is contradictory to the Bible and history.  This is a direct result of listening to the pastor; who preaches that the reason for the incarnation of Jesus is subject to Epicureanism; as all modern Pentecostals teach.  Let  me comment on some of his ideas. 

 1."You do not want to believe the centuries old belief that St.Thomas visited   South India."
 

This belief is only 6 centuries old.  The belief is that St. Thomas converted Brahmins to Christianity; But, Namboothirys came to Malabar in the 6th century.  The best book awailable on Thomas history in India is by Fr. Dr. Mundadan of Dharmaram, Bangalore.  He says there is no proof to put Thomas in India.  The excavations in Afghanistan has proved that Gondaphorus the King reigned there.  The Portuguese lied  that  Gondaphorus was Gundaparajah a Tamil King.  Some of the orthodox who wants to establish a throne for St. Thomas also hold on to this theory.  The current Pope had to admit the truth; though Mylapore is a minor Basalica. The modern day St. Thomas Mount of Mylapore is on the ruins of a Jain Temple.  The ones who claim St. Thomas in India should note that the Cross was not a symbol of Christianity until the 4th century; until when St. Helen (daughter of a knanaya priest) discovered our Lord's Cross.  Again the so called cross of St. Thomas in Madras was bleeding until 1700; until the British took over.

Then on what basis you believe that Thomas came to India?  On the basis of 'Acts of Thomas'?  This book is a lyric written in the 4th century.  The book is against family life also.


2. that the KNAs brought THASKA of YAKOOB and the BREAD THAT JESUS BLESSED ?


You believe that the KURBANA APPAM we take in memmory of Jesus's death, is made from the same bread Jesus blessed on the Last Supper. Did you know that the bread that Jesus ate was made from unfermented dough and the wine Jesus drank was unfermented (it was fresh grape juice). Fermentation or leaven represents sin in the Bible. Jesus was celebrating the 'Passover'(feast of Unleavened Bread) on the day of the Last Supper(Please read Exodus 12 and Mathew 26:17).Leaven or anything fermented were not allowed at least for seven days in their houses. If Jesus was eating unfermented bread for the Last supper,  how can the same bread ferment the bread now? Can you please explain?
 

Jesus was not celebrating the Passover of the Jews.  The Passover described in the old testament is Jesus Himself.  John 18: 28. "But they themselves did not go into the Praetorium, lest they should be defiled, but that they might eat the Passover"  He was our lamb to be slaughtered on exact same day.  The Qurbana appam is not just the memory of the death of Jesus.  It is Jesus himself; John 6:41- 51. It is the bread talked in Our Lord's Prayer. Give us today our Daily Bread.  Jesus was using Aramaic.  The word "LAHAMO" means LEAVENED BREAD.  Kindly read the bible.  Jesus was not doing the Jewish Passover.  He did it a day before.  Show me where it says He took the Passover bread in His hands.  He took the Bread for the super; "LAHAMO"He died on the Passover day. They wanted to bring him down from the cross on the Passover day.  HE IS THE PASSOVER BREAD and The Lamb..  The wine we use is the wine which was created in Cana.  The new wine which is the blood of Jesus which flows in abundance.   Yes; blood and water (that flowed from HIS SIDE when HE was pierced).  Wine and water mixed equally.  Qurbana is the LORD IN FULL; ANNOUNCEMENT, BIRTH, BAPTISM,  ACTIONS, DEATH, BURIAL, RESURECTION, ACENTION, HIS SITING IN THE RIGHTSIDE OF HIS FATHER AND HIS SECOND COMING.  Qurbana is Jesus in FULL.  The word of God; which includes the Old and New Testament., mutually inclusive.  For leavening we do not use anything else other that a very little bit of the dough we used  the previus time.  We full fill Amos 4:5 "Offer a sacrifice of thanksgiving with leaven"  I do not know where the pentacostals got this idea of grape juice and Passover bread, may be from the Westminster confession of faith..  We do not celebrate the jewish Passover as Qurbana.  We celebrate HIM.

 

About the Liturgy of St. James;  Nobody ever challenged it.  Kindly read early Church Fathers.  Could you explain why early Christians were accused of Cannibalism?  Whose flesh were they eating?  Please, do not tell me that they were eating each other as modern nominal Christians do.  They never denied that they were not eating human flesh either and they were all persecuted.  Ref: Oregin  

We are all trying to do our best with our own power. But the Bible says our rightousness is like a filthy ragg(Isiah 64:6). Ulness we are connected to the true vine(Jesus)we cannot do anything(John:1-6). But with His Power we can do everything(Philippians 4:13). 
 

This prophesy is about the modern Pentacostal who claims to be saved and lives a life without any repentance.  The prophecy is further explained in  1ST John 1: 10 and 1ST John 2nd.  We need to repent? How?
 

Before the ones who are commissioned with exclusive authority to do it.  Kindly read John 20: 21-23.

Kindly see the difference between the Power of the Holy Spirit in this context and the helper of the day of Pentecost.  The disciples are authorized exclusively to forgive and/or not to forgive.

Tom, May be you can say Our Lord was wrong, and your pastor is right.  But do not say that Jesus did not give any exclusive right to anybody.  The Pentecostals also say that Almighty God wont give his glory to anybody outside of the trinity; If anyone is blinded with this teaching, Kindly read John 17. 

Anybody who boasts about their nearness to God, their knowledge of the word of God, That they are sinless etc are all from the enemy.

 

Thanks, Monsy

 



Knanaya Community is a very distinct ethnic and religious group whose ancestry traces back to Abraham. Knanaya Christians, a hybrid people of Indian and Jewish descent, carved a unique niche for themselves in India. They developed a style of life that was borrowed from both their jewish and Indian progenitors but jelled into something that was essentially their own. Knananites continue to be an endogamous community.